1 00:00:03,429 --> 00:00:02,149 good morning welcome to the 2 00:00:04,870 --> 00:00:03,439 international space station flight 3 00:00:07,590 --> 00:00:04,880 control room where we have with us a 4 00:00:09,910 --> 00:00:07,600 guest today uh this is dory tomaiko who 5 00:00:12,230 --> 00:00:09,920 is the lead uh visiting vehicle officer 6 00:00:14,310 --> 00:00:12,240 for the spacex2 mission that's coming up 7 00:00:16,070 --> 00:00:14,320 scheduled to launch on march 1st the 8 00:00:18,230 --> 00:00:16,080 crew is doing some work to get ready for 9 00:00:19,349 --> 00:00:18,240 that yesterday so we asked dory to come 10 00:00:20,630 --> 00:00:19,359 in and talk with us a little bit about 11 00:00:22,630 --> 00:00:20,640 what was going on with those 12 00:00:24,870 --> 00:00:22,640 preparations and what would uh be 13 00:00:26,630 --> 00:00:24,880 happening on march 2nd when 14 00:00:28,150 --> 00:00:26,640 the dragon docks to the space station 15 00:00:29,990 --> 00:00:28,160 thanks so much for coming dory glad to 16 00:00:31,509 --> 00:00:30,000 be here okay so let's see i think 17 00:00:33,750 --> 00:00:31,519 yesterday the crew was practicing with 18 00:00:35,030 --> 00:00:33,760 robotics is that right that's correct so 19 00:00:35,910 --> 00:00:35,040 what it what do they need to do to get 20 00:00:37,590 --> 00:00:35,920 ready 21 00:00:39,110 --> 00:00:37,600 so we do several different kinds of 22 00:00:40,790 --> 00:00:39,120 preparation for the crew and on the 23 00:00:42,310 --> 00:00:40,800 ground as well what the crew was doing 24 00:00:44,310 --> 00:00:42,320 yesterday is they did two different 25 00:00:47,029 --> 00:00:44,320 kinds the first one is they were just 26 00:00:49,590 --> 00:00:47,039 practicing the capture itself so we have 27 00:00:51,670 --> 00:00:49,600 a simulator called robot which is kind 28 00:00:52,869 --> 00:00:51,680 of a representation of what they'll use 29 00:00:54,470 --> 00:00:52,879 the real day when they're actually 30 00:00:56,470 --> 00:00:54,480 controlling the arm but it's all 31 00:00:58,229 --> 00:00:56,480 graphics and simulated and so they were 32 00:00:59,670 --> 00:00:58,239 running that yesterday and they started 33 00:01:01,189 --> 00:00:59,680 at the capture point which is where 34 00:01:03,189 --> 00:01:01,199 dragon will stop its approach it's about 35 00:01:04,710 --> 00:01:03,199 10 meters away from iss and the crew 36 00:01:06,469 --> 00:01:04,720 takes it from there and takes the arm in 37 00:01:08,230 --> 00:01:06,479 and goes and captures so they do a lot 38 00:01:09,910 --> 00:01:08,240 of runs like that to practice both 39 00:01:11,429 --> 00:01:09,920 nominal runs and then we have some runs 40 00:01:13,270 --> 00:01:11,439 where maybe dragon is moving a little 41 00:01:14,550 --> 00:01:13,280 bit or where 42 00:01:16,230 --> 00:01:14,560 they have to come in from kind of an 43 00:01:17,910 --> 00:01:16,240 offset where dragon isn't set up quite 44 00:01:20,390 --> 00:01:17,920 where it was expected to be 45 00:01:22,630 --> 00:01:20,400 yesterday was a nominal run and then we 46 00:01:24,630 --> 00:01:22,640 did a 30 meter run which is a lot 47 00:01:26,950 --> 00:01:24,640 farther out and that involves all three 48 00:01:28,550 --> 00:01:26,960 crew members and so you've got one crew 49 00:01:30,390 --> 00:01:28,560 member who is in charge of watching the 50 00:01:32,069 --> 00:01:30,400 vehicle another crew member who's 51 00:01:33,429 --> 00:01:32,079 running the arm and then a third crew 52 00:01:35,990 --> 00:01:33,439 member who's kind of there to help 53 00:01:37,429 --> 00:01:36,000 overall especially in case of anomalies 54 00:01:39,190 --> 00:01:37,439 or malfunctions and so that was what 55 00:01:40,390 --> 00:01:39,200 they did yesterday they had a 30 meter 56 00:01:42,389 --> 00:01:40,400 in run 57 00:01:44,789 --> 00:01:42,399 and then we simulated a problem on 58 00:01:46,310 --> 00:01:44,799 dragon with its communication system and 59 00:01:47,510 --> 00:01:46,320 that required all three crew members to 60 00:01:49,190 --> 00:01:47,520 work together to figure out what the 61 00:01:50,630 --> 00:01:49,200 correct operation was 62 00:01:52,469 --> 00:01:50,640 and i guess you know of course we don't 63 00:01:54,630 --> 00:01:52,479 really expect anything to go wrong but 64 00:01:56,630 --> 00:01:54,640 we always at nasa train for that pretty 65 00:01:58,230 --> 00:01:56,640 extensively just exactly yeah our 66 00:01:59,429 --> 00:01:58,240 simulations are always much harder than 67 00:02:00,789 --> 00:01:59,439 real life and that's the way you want it 68 00:02:02,789 --> 00:02:00,799 to be prepared for everything and then 69 00:02:04,789 --> 00:02:02,799 not have to use that preparation well i 70 00:02:06,709 --> 00:02:04,799 guess now the team on the ground has one 71 00:02:09,669 --> 00:02:06,719 run of this under its belt from spacex 72 00:02:11,029 --> 00:02:09,679 one um but the crew has not uh done this 73 00:02:12,550 --> 00:02:11,039 in real life that's correct and we 74 00:02:14,229 --> 00:02:12,560 actually had a spacex demo mission so 75 00:02:15,830 --> 00:02:14,239 we've gotten to see dragon come up twice 76 00:02:17,589 --> 00:02:15,840 now which is great from a ground 77 00:02:19,990 --> 00:02:17,599 perspective and then the crew of course 78 00:02:21,750 --> 00:02:20,000 is new every six months and so this crew 79 00:02:23,190 --> 00:02:21,760 hasn't seen one yet but they get a lot 80 00:02:25,030 --> 00:02:23,200 of training on the ground both from the 81 00:02:26,309 --> 00:02:25,040 robotics community and from the vvo 82 00:02:27,670 --> 00:02:26,319 community 83 00:02:29,190 --> 00:02:27,680 in watching the vehicle approach and 84 00:02:30,470 --> 00:02:29,200 then also the capture operations so 85 00:02:31,750 --> 00:02:30,480 they're very familiar with it this 86 00:02:33,589 --> 00:02:31,760 onboard training is really just a 87 00:02:35,270 --> 00:02:33,599 refresher all the hardcore training 88 00:02:36,790 --> 00:02:35,280 happens on the ground before they go up 89 00:02:38,710 --> 00:02:36,800 okay and do you feel like they're ready 90 00:02:40,390 --> 00:02:38,720 for it definitely yeah this crew is well 91 00:02:42,229 --> 00:02:40,400 prepared and they ask really great 92 00:02:43,509 --> 00:02:42,239 questions and and call us out on things 93 00:02:44,710 --> 00:02:43,519 sometimes so they're definitely on the 94 00:02:46,949 --> 00:02:44,720 ball i think we'll have a really good 95 00:02:48,630 --> 00:02:46,959 capture good good so um tell us a little 96 00:02:50,150 --> 00:02:48,640 bit about why it works like that why did 97 00:02:51,509 --> 00:02:50,160 we capture it with a robotic arm rather 98 00:02:53,830 --> 00:02:51,519 than letting it just 99 00:02:55,910 --> 00:02:53,840 come fly all the way up like say a soyuz 100 00:02:57,190 --> 00:02:55,920 does right so you kind of have two 101 00:02:58,470 --> 00:02:57,200 different kinds of vehicles that come to 102 00:03:00,470 --> 00:02:58,480 space station like you mentioned the 103 00:03:02,070 --> 00:03:00,480 soyuz and that is a docking vehicle and 104 00:03:04,149 --> 00:03:02,080 so it will come up all the way up to 105 00:03:05,589 --> 00:03:04,159 station and actually attach itself it'll 106 00:03:07,110 --> 00:03:05,599 line itself up with its port and go 107 00:03:08,869 --> 00:03:07,120 ahead and connect 108 00:03:11,750 --> 00:03:08,879 these vehicles and these 109 00:03:13,830 --> 00:03:11,760 include htv which is japan's vehicle and 110 00:03:15,270 --> 00:03:13,840 then also dragon and cygnus in the 111 00:03:16,229 --> 00:03:15,280 future which will be orbital sciences 112 00:03:19,589 --> 00:03:16,239 vehicle 113 00:03:20,949 --> 00:03:19,599 they come over to the u.s side and 114 00:03:22,390 --> 00:03:20,959 they're not built to go ahead and 115 00:03:24,630 --> 00:03:22,400 connect directly so they come up 116 00:03:26,070 --> 00:03:24,640 underneath the iss and then we grab them 117 00:03:27,270 --> 00:03:26,080 with robotics arm and attach them 118 00:03:29,030 --> 00:03:27,280 ourselves 119 00:03:30,949 --> 00:03:29,040 okay and um we've 120 00:03:32,390 --> 00:03:30,959 you know like you said a few 121 00:03:34,550 --> 00:03:32,400 runs of this one and then also some 122 00:03:36,390 --> 00:03:34,560 experience with other vehicles and 123 00:03:38,470 --> 00:03:36,400 should be should be good to go on march 124 00:03:40,550 --> 00:03:38,480 2nd definitely looking forward to it can 125 00:03:41,670 --> 00:03:40,560 you tell us anything about what um 126 00:03:42,789 --> 00:03:41,680 dragon will be bringing up to the 127 00:03:44,949 --> 00:03:42,799 station 128 00:03:46,470 --> 00:03:44,959 you know i'm not fully sure i don't want 129 00:03:48,470 --> 00:03:46,480 the cargo side of things i can tell you 130 00:03:50,070 --> 00:03:48,480 that we do have some external cargo for 131 00:03:51,910 --> 00:03:50,080 the first time which is very exciting 132 00:03:53,509 --> 00:03:51,920 from a robotics community perspective 133 00:03:55,429 --> 00:03:53,519 because they get to take the arm and 134 00:03:56,869 --> 00:03:55,439 have to pull stuff out of the trunk part 135 00:03:58,309 --> 00:03:56,879 of dragon which we haven't gotten to do 136 00:03:59,750 --> 00:03:58,319 yet we did some preparation in the last 137 00:04:01,190 --> 00:03:59,760 mission to get some views and see what 138 00:04:02,470 --> 00:04:01,200 it would look like but that's a first 139 00:04:04,390 --> 00:04:02,480 for this mission so i know there's a lot 140 00:04:05,589 --> 00:04:04,400 of work going into that oh i'm sure and 141 00:04:06,550 --> 00:04:05,599 it'll be up there for a while so the 142 00:04:08,789 --> 00:04:06,560 crew will probably need to practice a 143 00:04:10,630 --> 00:04:08,799 little bit for that as well exactly yeah 144 00:04:12,309 --> 00:04:10,640 they have a little bit of work they do 145 00:04:13,910 --> 00:04:12,319 just for cargo transfer figuring out 146 00:04:16,229 --> 00:04:13,920 what we take off what we put back on 147 00:04:17,830 --> 00:04:16,239 dragon dragon is full of science which 148 00:04:19,349 --> 00:04:17,840 is great and so there's a lot of science 149 00:04:21,349 --> 00:04:19,359 work that they'll be doing while it's up 150 00:04:23,270 --> 00:04:21,359 there and then the crew also do some 151 00:04:25,270 --> 00:04:23,280 training before we do dragon departure 152 00:04:26,710 --> 00:04:25,280 again for how they watch dragon leave 153 00:04:28,230 --> 00:04:26,720 and like you said a lot of training 154 00:04:29,749 --> 00:04:28,240 involving getting the cargo out of the 155 00:04:31,189 --> 00:04:29,759 trunk there with the arm sure and i 156 00:04:32,950 --> 00:04:31,199 think we're seeing here some animation 157 00:04:35,590 --> 00:04:32,960 of uh first of its journey to the 158 00:04:38,390 --> 00:04:35,600 station and now it's uh landing back in 159 00:04:40,550 --> 00:04:38,400 the ocean um just showing you how how 160 00:04:42,070 --> 00:04:40,560 that mission will work a little bit but 161 00:04:43,350 --> 00:04:42,080 again the crew plays a big part of it 162 00:04:45,430 --> 00:04:43,360 and they're already getting ready and 163 00:04:47,510 --> 00:04:45,440 have just about a week more to finish up 164 00:04:50,629 --> 00:04:47,520 their preparations and i'm assuming do 165 00:04:52,230 --> 00:04:50,639 some more off nominal um simulations 166 00:04:53,350 --> 00:04:52,240 that's right yeah we have some more 167 00:04:55,670 --> 00:04:53,360 training at the end of this week and 168 00:04:57,590 --> 00:04:55,680 early next um all the way up until right 169 00:04:59,110 --> 00:04:57,600 the day before capture we do some last 170 00:05:01,110 --> 00:04:59,120 minute training and like i said this is 171 00:05:02,710 --> 00:05:01,120 all just refresher for them and they 172 00:05:04,310 --> 00:05:02,720 also have the ability with the robot 173 00:05:06,070 --> 00:05:04,320 system that i mentioned to go ahead and 174 00:05:07,590 --> 00:05:06,080 do training anytime they want on board 175 00:05:09,110 --> 00:05:07,600 so they can set it up in their free time 176 00:05:10,469 --> 00:05:09,120 and do some runs and so you'll see them 177 00:05:11,830 --> 00:05:10,479 doing that a lot where they just go over 178 00:05:13,510 --> 00:05:11,840 and they've got 10 minutes here or there 179 00:05:15,590 --> 00:05:13,520 and they'll go capture some dragons get 180 00:05:17,189 --> 00:05:15,600 some extra credit points exactly yeah 181 00:05:18,550 --> 00:05:17,199 well who's doing what in the actual 182 00:05:20,310 --> 00:05:18,560 capture 183 00:05:22,629 --> 00:05:20,320 so uh like i mentioned we have three 184 00:05:25,110 --> 00:05:22,639 crew members uh two crew members who 185 00:05:26,790 --> 00:05:25,120 from our perspective we call vv1 and vb2 186 00:05:30,070 --> 00:05:26,800 are involved all the way from when 187 00:05:32,950 --> 00:05:30,080 dragon is at 250 meters the vv1 crew 188 00:05:34,710 --> 00:05:32,960 member and that's tom marshburn is the 189 00:05:36,870 --> 00:05:34,720 lead from a video perspective so he's 190 00:05:38,629 --> 00:05:36,880 watching the vehicle come up and he's 191 00:05:40,150 --> 00:05:38,639 making calls to the ground which if you 192 00:05:41,749 --> 00:05:40,160 listen during the capture and the 193 00:05:43,670 --> 00:05:41,759 approach you'll hear we call those block 194 00:05:45,830 --> 00:05:43,680 bravos and he's giving us a feel for 195 00:05:48,310 --> 00:05:45,840 what he sees the vehicle doing at any 196 00:05:50,230 --> 00:05:48,320 time we've got a diagram here of uh the 197 00:05:52,950 --> 00:05:50,240 different points of of its approach to 198 00:05:55,270 --> 00:05:52,960 the space station and then the second 199 00:05:56,950 --> 00:05:55,280 crew member who we call vb2 uh he's the 200 00:05:58,469 --> 00:05:56,960 lead robotics crew member and so that's 201 00:06:00,230 --> 00:05:58,479 kevin ford he's the one who'll be 202 00:06:01,909 --> 00:06:00,240 actually doing the capturing so he's 203 00:06:03,670 --> 00:06:01,919 going to be manning the arm that day and 204 00:06:05,189 --> 00:06:03,680 then at 30 meters 205 00:06:07,510 --> 00:06:05,199 chris hadfield will come in as kind of 206 00:06:08,550 --> 00:06:07,520 the overall help for the last 45 minutes 207 00:06:10,150 --> 00:06:08,560 or so 208 00:06:11,510 --> 00:06:10,160 and just kind of be the you know 209 00:06:13,029 --> 00:06:11,520 everybody's getting real involved in 210 00:06:14,950 --> 00:06:13,039 what's happening and he can kind of step 211 00:06:16,710 --> 00:06:14,960 back and keep a bigger picture view and 212 00:06:18,070 --> 00:06:16,720 be ready in case there were some sort of 213 00:06:20,550 --> 00:06:18,080 malfunctions which of course we don't 214 00:06:22,309 --> 00:06:20,560 expect to happen okay but um it sounds 215 00:06:24,790 --> 00:06:22,319 like everybody will be busy that day and 216 00:06:26,790 --> 00:06:24,800 uh it should be exciting to see the 217 00:06:28,390 --> 00:06:26,800 second spacex or third really come to 218 00:06:30,469 --> 00:06:28,400 the space station exactly yeah it'll be 219 00:06:31,670 --> 00:06:30,479 a good day and a nice long day all right 220 00:06:33,029 --> 00:06:31,680 thank you so much for talking with a 221 00:06:34,550 --> 00:06:33,039 story we really appreciate it and again 222 00:06:36,790 --> 00:06:34,560 she is the lead 223 00:06:38,309 --> 00:06:36,800 visiting vehicle officer for spacex 2